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	<title>Comments on: Beyond the Forest: OpenID and the bigs, all hat and no cattle</title>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Rourke</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/03/24/beyond-the-forest-openid-and-the-bigs-all-hat-and-no-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-2497</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I installed the plugin listed on http://twurl.cc/eh and have OpenID comments running smoothly (and easily)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed the plugin listed on <a href="http://twurl.cc/eh" rel="nofollow">http://twurl.cc/eh</a> and have OpenID comments running smoothly (and easily)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Turoczy</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/03/24/beyond-the-forest-openid-and-the-bigs-all-hat-and-no-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-2495</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Turoczy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t though? I blame my new theme. 

But I&#039;m hoping to resurrect the OpenID login after discussions with Scott Kveton at Beer &amp; Blog.

Maybe we can use Silicon Florist as an example for how easy it is to add OpenID? Maybe everyone should come watch the magic, firsthand?

http://twurl.cc/ef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t though? I blame my new theme. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m hoping to resurrect the OpenID login after discussions with Scott Kveton at Beer &#038; Blog.</p>
<p>Maybe we can use Silicon Florist as an example for how easy it is to add OpenID? Maybe everyone should come watch the magic, firsthand?</p>
<p><a href="http://twurl.cc/ef" rel="nofollow">http://twurl.cc/ef</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Rourke</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/03/24/beyond-the-forest-openid-and-the-bigs-all-hat-and-no-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-2494</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think that with adoption by Wordpress.com and other hugely growing properties it&#039;ll become a requirement before the bigs (esp. microsoft and aol) can squash it with their own feeble &quot;innovations&quot;.
(also it&#039;s ironic I can&#039;t use OpenID here to comment)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think that with adoption by WordPress.com and other hugely growing properties it&#8217;ll become a requirement before the bigs (esp. microsoft and aol) can squash it with their own feeble &#8220;innovations&#8221;.<br />
(also it&#8217;s ironic I can&#8217;t use OpenID here to comment)</p>
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		<title>By: sarah gilbert</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/03/24/beyond-the-forest-openid-and-the-bigs-all-hat-and-no-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-2485</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>given that I work for one of the &quot;Bigs&quot; and deal constantly with these frustrations (and, hello corporate bosses, it would be nice not to have to create another stupid profile for every new networking service you buy... *cough* bebo sucks *cough*), I can say that it will be a LONG time before AOL/Microsoft let go and let openid. that sounds like a good bumper sticker, btw.

it&#039;s something that the geeky open source crowd that&#039;s a minority in most of these companies is clamoring for. at least *i* am! 

(and i go off, thinking of ways to raise the question. of course my list of &quot;corporate policies that don&#039;t make rational sense&quot; just keeps growing...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>given that I work for one of the &#8220;Bigs&#8221; and deal constantly with these frustrations (and, hello corporate bosses, it would be nice not to have to create another stupid profile for every new networking service you buy&#8230; *cough* bebo sucks *cough*), I can say that it will be a LONG time before AOL/Microsoft let go and let openid. that sounds like a good bumper sticker, btw.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s something that the geeky open source crowd that&#8217;s a minority in most of these companies is clamoring for. at least *i* am! </p>
<p>(and i go off, thinking of ways to raise the question. of course my list of &#8220;corporate policies that don&#8217;t make rational sense&#8221; just keeps growing&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Turoczy</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/03/24/beyond-the-forest-openid-and-the-bigs-all-hat-and-no-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-2482</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Turoczy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris O&#039;Rourke I sincerely hope that your optimism trumps my cynicism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris O&#8217;Rourke I sincerely hope that your optimism trumps my cynicism.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Rourke</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/03/24/beyond-the-forest-openid-and-the-bigs-all-hat-and-no-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-2481</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the focus for implementation shouldn&#039;t be on the bigs but on everyone else. That will provide the true tipping point. 

Also the statement that without the bigs there is no tipping point seems a bit extreme. That implies that Yahoo + Google + Microsoft together are bigger than all the rest of the net combined. I disagree vehemently with that idea and if the open source folk push hard enough for adoption everywhere else the big guys will sit up and take notice. 2 years for enterprise corporations is a miniscule amount of time when you think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the focus for implementation shouldn&#8217;t be on the bigs but on everyone else. That will provide the true tipping point. </p>
<p>Also the statement that without the bigs there is no tipping point seems a bit extreme. That implies that Yahoo + Google + Microsoft together are bigger than all the rest of the net combined. I disagree vehemently with that idea and if the open source folk push hard enough for adoption everywhere else the big guys will sit up and take notice. 2 years for enterprise corporations is a miniscule amount of time when you think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Turoczy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Turoczy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kveton I think I just tend to fall for the &quot;we&#039;re getting antsy&quot; posts, because this seems like such an obvious solution to some of the problems these companies are experiencing. 

Well, and because I&#039;m such a fanboi when it comes the OpenID concept.

Agree on Portland and our potential place in the whole mix.

Maybe we Portlanders need to be thinking about an OpenID gathering. Not in terms of geeking out, but in terms of helping businesses understand the value of this pursuit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kveton I think I just tend to fall for the &#8220;we&#8217;re getting antsy&#8221; posts, because this seems like such an obvious solution to some of the problems these companies are experiencing. </p>
<p>Well, and because I&#8217;m such a fanboi when it comes the OpenID concept.</p>
<p>Agree on Portland and our potential place in the whole mix.</p>
<p>Maybe we Portlanders need to be thinking about an OpenID gathering. Not in terms of geeking out, but in terms of helping businesses understand the value of this pursuit?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kveton</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/03/24/beyond-the-forest-openid-and-the-bigs-all-hat-and-no-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-2479</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Kveton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been hearing this argument about the bigs for as long as the technology has been around (BTW - it hasn&#039;t even been 3 years yet - think about that).

In the past year we&#039;ve made tremendous strides in getting OpenID adopted ... relying parties will come ... the best part is Portland is really poised to be the center of this &quot;open web&quot; movement.  What a great time to be here ... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been hearing this argument about the bigs for as long as the technology has been around (BTW &#8211; it hasn&#8217;t even been 3 years yet &#8211; think about that).</p>
<p>In the past year we&#8217;ve made tremendous strides in getting OpenID adopted &#8230; relying parties will come &#8230; the best part is Portland is really poised to be the center of this &#8220;open web&#8221; movement.  What a great time to be here &#8230; :-)</p>
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