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	<title>Comments on: OregonLive Reddit now based on latest not greatest</title>
	<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3153</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3153</guid>
		<description>Aaron, quality still matters on the Oregon Reddit page. This move actually makes people less inclined to try to game the system with the sole purpose of getting front page linkage, hence the voting is less skewed on Oregon Reddit.

It makes Oregon Reddit more useful, even if the rest of the OregonLive site still belongs somewhere in the last century.

I submit that if anybody was using Oregon Reddit for the sole purpose of getting a link on the front page of OregonLive, they had a fundamental misunderstanding of how social bookmarking sites are intended to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, quality still matters on the Oregon Reddit page. This move actually makes people less inclined to try to game the system with the sole purpose of getting front page linkage, hence the voting is less skewed on Oregon Reddit.</p>
<p>It makes Oregon Reddit more useful, even if the rest of the OregonLive site still belongs somewhere in the last century.</p>
<p>I submit that if anybody was using Oregon Reddit for the sole purpose of getting a link on the front page of OregonLive, they had a fundamental misunderstanding of how social bookmarking sites are intended to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron B. Hockley</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3152</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron B. Hockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3152</guid>
		<description>Mike said "Betcha this changes again as they learn more about the medium."

What frustrates me is that the rest of the internet learned about the Digg/Reddit-style medium a few years ago.  For some reason, OregonLive has decided that popularity doesn't matter and instead they're just going to display whatever's been submitted latest.

That's fine, god knows that OregonLive doesn't do anything else that makes sense, but it means that the traffic incentive is totally gone for bloggers.  Instead of writing interesting content in the hopes of some sustained local traffic for a few hours, one can now just post shit, and it'll take it's place on the OregonLive homepage.

The reddit section used to be the only place on oregonlive.com where quality mattered.  Now, quality is &lt;b&gt;completely&lt;/b&gt; ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike said &#8220;Betcha this changes again as they learn more about the medium.&#8221;</p>
<p>What frustrates me is that the rest of the internet learned about the Digg/Reddit-style medium a few years ago.  For some reason, OregonLive has decided that popularity doesn&#8217;t matter and instead they&#8217;re just going to display whatever&#8217;s been submitted latest.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine, god knows that OregonLive doesn&#8217;t do anything else that makes sense, but it means that the traffic incentive is totally gone for bloggers.  Instead of writing interesting content in the hopes of some sustained local traffic for a few hours, one can now just post shit, and it&#8217;ll take it&#8217;s place on the OregonLive homepage.</p>
<p>The reddit section used to be the only place on oregonlive.com where quality mattered.  Now, quality is <b>completely</b> ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: More Hockey Less War</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3151</link>
		<dc:creator>More Hockey Less War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3151</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Oregon Reddit: Now slightly less broken!...&lt;/strong&gt;

For a while now, I&#8217;ve been using Oregon Reddit, a local version of the social bookmarking site hosted by OregonLive, the sort-of Web front for that dying dinosaur of Portland media,The Oregonian.
For a while when it first started, before people r...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Oregon Reddit: Now slightly less broken!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>For a while now, I&#8217;ve been using Oregon Reddit, a local version of the social bookmarking site hosted by OregonLive, the sort-of Web front for that dying dinosaur of Portland media,The Oregonian.<br />
For a while when it first started, before people r&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: OregonDead</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3149</link>
		<dc:creator>OregonDead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3149</guid>
		<description>And ... if it weren't for Reddit, I would have NO IDEA this blog even existed. And now it's my homepage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And &#8230; if it weren&#8217;t for Reddit, I would have NO IDEA this blog even existed. And now it&#8217;s my homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: OregonDead</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3148</link>
		<dc:creator>OregonDead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3148</guid>
		<description>The point of Reddit is to share stories, news and blogs from across the internets with other users of Reddit. 

It's not about who has the most points, or who's the King of Reddit. Who cares? What are you gonna go to Starbucks in the morning and tell the barista how many points have on Oregon Reddit? It's about submitting stuff and sharing stuff you find interesting with the peeps.

The main Reddit page displays the hottest, http://reddit.oregonlive.com/

And the new page displays the newest, http://reddit.oregonlive.com/new

Or you can search Reddit. It's sortable by how the user wants to experience Reddit. 

You can still vote on it if you really want. But I think the purpose is share. I don't even downvote things. If I like it, I vote it up. 

Just because it doesn't show up on the Oregon live homepage doesn't mean it's not good. All the stuff that stayed there as hot was just political junk anyway.

I think Mike Mathews is right. It's new still and kinks are still being hammered out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of Reddit is to share stories, news and blogs from across the internets with other users of Reddit. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about who has the most points, or who&#8217;s the King of Reddit. Who cares? What are you gonna go to Starbucks in the morning and tell the barista how many points have on Oregon Reddit? It&#8217;s about submitting stuff and sharing stuff you find interesting with the peeps.</p>
<p>The main Reddit page displays the hottest, <a href="http://reddit.oregonlive.com/" rel="nofollow">http://reddit.oregonlive.com/</a></p>
<p>And the new page displays the newest, <a href="http://reddit.oregonlive.com/new" rel="nofollow">http://reddit.oregonlive.com/new</a></p>
<p>Or you can search Reddit. It&#8217;s sortable by how the user wants to experience Reddit. </p>
<p>You can still vote on it if you really want. But I think the purpose is share. I don&#8217;t even downvote things. If I like it, I vote it up. </p>
<p>Just because it doesn&#8217;t show up on the Oregon live homepage doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not good. All the stuff that stayed there as hot was just political junk anyway.</p>
<p>I think Mike Mathews is right. It&#8217;s new still and kinks are still being hammered out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike.Mathews</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3144</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike.Mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3144</guid>
		<description>A swing and a miss, just to say in the seasonal parlance. As a "news" org, they have a need to display the latest, but it's a mis not to also show what readers are most interested/concerned/flabbergasted/frustrated/etc. about.

Betcha this changes again as they learn more about the medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A swing and a miss, just to say in the seasonal parlance. As a &#8220;news&#8221; org, they have a need to display the latest, but it&#8217;s a mis not to also show what readers are most interested/concerned/flabbergasted/frustrated/etc. about.</p>
<p>Betcha this changes again as they learn more about the medium.</p>
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		<title>By: ctb</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3143</link>
		<dc:creator>ctb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3143</guid>
		<description>Annnd now I will no longer use the OregonLive Reddit. Isn't that completely counter to how Reddit itself even works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annnd now I will no longer use the OregonLive Reddit. Isn&#8217;t that completely counter to how Reddit itself even works?</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3142</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3142</guid>
		<description>If there =really= that worried about the most popular story self selecting and creating an echo chamber then I'm sure that they can modify how there pulling to do a bit of both sides:

score = (votes + comment_count) - ((today - post_date) * 2 )

then order by score. I'm sure that the math could use some work but if there is no current desire for the story then it will slowly drop in the ranking, giving the ability to float for 'new and shiny' with out totally stomping on the readers ability to vote and comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there =really= that worried about the most popular story self selecting and creating an echo chamber then I&#8217;m sure that they can modify how there pulling to do a bit of both sides:</p>
<p>score = (votes + comment_count) - ((today - post_date) * 2 )</p>
<p>then order by score. I&#8217;m sure that the math could use some work but if there is no current desire for the story then it will slowly drop in the ranking, giving the ability to float for &#8216;new and shiny&#8217; with out totally stomping on the readers ability to vote and comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmartens</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmartens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3141</guid>
		<description>wow, talk about taking a step backwards! I wasn't a user/fan and I realy am not now.

Great post, thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, talk about taking a step backwards! I wasn&#8217;t a user/fan and I realy am not now.</p>
<p>Great post, thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron B. Hockley</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3140</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron B. Hockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://siliconflorist.com/2008/05/06/oregonlive-reddit-now-based-on-latest-not-greatest/#comment-3140</guid>
		<description>Amazing.  Just when I think that the Oregonian and OregonLive couldn't get even more webtarded, they go and prove me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.  Just when I think that the Oregonian and OregonLive couldn&#8217;t get even more webtarded, they go and prove me wrong.</p>
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