Comments on: OSCON 2008: Introducing the Open Web Foundation http://siliconflorist.com/2008/07/24/open-web-foundation-oscon-2008/ Rose City + Silicon Forest Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:21:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Matt Bonner http://siliconflorist.com/2008/07/24/open-web-foundation-oscon-2008/#comment-3700 Matt Bonner Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:20:57 +0000 http://siliconflorist.com/2008/07/24/open-web-foundation-oscon-2008/#comment-3700 I'd love to see some work start defining an XML format for the configuration of user home pages. I'm thinking of a portable format that works between igoogle, my.yahoo.com, myway.com, etc so that it's easy to point any site to an XML descriptor for the content I want to see, and dare I dream, how I want to see it presented. adéu, Mateu I’d love to see some work start defining an XML format for the configuration of user home pages. I’m thinking of a portable format that works between igoogle, my.yahoo.com, myway.com, etc so that it’s easy to point any site to an XML descriptor for the content I want to see, and dare I dream, how I want to see it presented.

adéu,
Mateu

]]> By: Rick Turoczy http://siliconflorist.com/2008/07/24/open-web-foundation-oscon-2008/#comment-3691 Rick Turoczy Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:14:37 +0000 http://siliconflorist.com/2008/07/24/open-web-foundation-oscon-2008/#comment-3691 @Jaybill I hear you. Since the OWF isn't a standards body, they need some standards with which to work. But hopefully, as a united front, they can help bring some of these issues to the forefront and work on getting them solved. Given the participants in this group and their passion for this effort, I would imagine we will be seeing some definitive activity out of this group. And I, like you, hope to see that happen. @Jaybill I hear you. Since the OWF isn’t a standards body, they need some standards with which to work. But hopefully, as a united front, they can help bring some of these issues to the forefront and work on getting them solved.

Given the participants in this group and their passion for this effort, I would imagine we will be seeing some definitive activity out of this group.

And I, like you, hope to see that happen.

]]> By: Jaybill McCarthy http://siliconflorist.com/2008/07/24/open-web-foundation-oscon-2008/#comment-3690 Jaybill McCarthy Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:07:04 +0000 http://siliconflorist.com/2008/07/24/open-web-foundation-oscon-2008/#comment-3690 It will be interesting to see how far OWF gets. I'm certainly excited to see some long overdue activity in the area of open web interoperability, but I think it will remain to be seen how quickly relevant standards get developed and what the uptake for them is going to look like a year or two from now. The signal to noise ratio surrounding open standards is fairly askew. I've heard lots and lots of talk and seen very little in the way of actual standards definitions and general web community uptake. Take microformats.org, for example. This is a body dedicated to creating open standards that is absolutely *buried* in its own committee ratification process. There are proposed standards there that have sat 98% complete for several *years*. As a result, the entire movement suffers and the whole arena grows stale. So while I think that OWF is a very cool idea with a lot of potential that has some very smart people and big companies behind it, you'll pardon me if I wait until I see some *actual, implementable standards* before I get too excited. It will be interesting to see how far OWF gets. I’m certainly excited to see some long overdue activity in the area of open web interoperability, but I think it will remain to be seen how quickly relevant standards get developed and what the uptake for them is going to look like a year or two from now.

The signal to noise ratio surrounding open standards is fairly askew. I’ve heard lots and lots of talk and seen very little in the way of actual standards definitions and general web community uptake. Take microformats.org, for example. This is a body dedicated to creating open standards that is absolutely *buried* in its own committee ratification process. There are proposed standards there that have sat 98% complete for several *years*. As a result, the entire movement suffers and the whole arena grows stale.

So while I think that OWF is a very cool idea with a lot of potential that has some very smart people and big companies behind it, you’ll pardon me if I wait until I see some *actual, implementable standards* before I get too excited.

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