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	<title>Comments on: Sad news: SplashCast hits the off button on Social TV</title>
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		<title>By: FAIL tale: Post mortem on the demise of Portland&#8217;s SplashCast &#171; Silicon Florist</title>
		<link>http://siliconflorist.com/2009/08/04/sad-news-splashcast-hits-off-button-social-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-12748</link>
		<dc:creator>FAIL tale: Post mortem on the demise of Portland&#8217;s SplashCast &#171; Silicon Florist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s never a happy to thing to have to report on the demise of once high-flying and well-funded Portland startups. But that&#8217;s exactly what happened, last year, when Portland-based SplashCast wound up switching off. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s never a happy to thing to have to report on the demise of once high-flying and well-funded Portland startups. But that&#8217;s exactly what happened, last year, when Portland-based SplashCast wound up switching off. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Demise of SplashCast &#8211; Many Lessons Learned &#171; Tom Turnbull&#8217;s Notebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Demise of SplashCast &#8211; Many Lessons Learned &#171; Tom Turnbull&#8217;s Notebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1. Money. This is the first time that I&#8217;ve worked at a company that literally ran out of cash. My first startup raised close to $70MM (although failed for other reasons) and my second went public (NASDAQ: INET). I&#8217;m still sorting it out, but I&#8217;m not going to play the Portland Card. Our lack of funding was a result of numerous factors (yes, including our location). If I had to give a single reason, I would point to the economy. (See good discussion at the SiliconFlorist blog on SplashCast and funding in Portland.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1. Money. This is the first time that I&#8217;ve worked at a company that literally ran out of cash. My first startup raised close to $70MM (although failed for other reasons) and my second went public (NASDAQ: INET). I&#8217;m still sorting it out, but I&#8217;m not going to play the Portland Card. Our lack of funding was a result of numerous factors (yes, including our location). If I had to give a single reason, I would point to the economy. (See good discussion at the SiliconFlorist blog on SplashCast and funding in Portland.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Lillegard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Lillegard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I started my company, I did so with the knowledge that no matter what happened, I&#039;d learn from the experience and come out better on the other end. Whether we succeed wildly, fail miserably, or land somewhere in between, the entire team will have developed a skill set and ideology that can contribute to the growth of the next startup or business they are involved in. It builds intellectual capital, which in the end is invaluable for building an entrepreneurial community that is self supporting. 
Silicon Valley isn&#039;t a place, it&#039;s a culture. Part of that culture is learning to fail. Better to fail fast, learn quickly, and move on to the next gig with more knowledge than the first go-around. Portland and Oregon in general is better off because of SplashCast and the team that gave it a go, learned a lot, and will rise again with another idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started my company, I did so with the knowledge that no matter what happened, I&#8217;d learn from the experience and come out better on the other end. Whether we succeed wildly, fail miserably, or land somewhere in between, the entire team will have developed a skill set and ideology that can contribute to the growth of the next startup or business they are involved in. It builds intellectual capital, which in the end is invaluable for building an entrepreneurial community that is self supporting.<br />
Silicon Valley isn&#8217;t a place, it&#8217;s a culture. Part of that culture is learning to fail. Better to fail fast, learn quickly, and move on to the next gig with more knowledge than the first go-around. Portland and Oregon in general is better off because of SplashCast and the team that gave it a go, learned a lot, and will rise again with another idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear the news Mike. You guys had a great product. Company&#039;s are definitely isolated here in Portland, and it takes extra work for that visibility in big media. That being said, I wouldn&#039;t move my company anywhere. People are passionate here and care about their environment, the company they work for and their town. This is rarely the case in the Valley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear the news Mike. You guys had a great product. Company&#8217;s are definitely isolated here in Portland, and it takes extra work for that visibility in big media. That being said, I wouldn&#8217;t move my company anywhere. People are passionate here and care about their environment, the company they work for and their town. This is rarely the case in the Valley.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Michael -- please don&#039;t feel any shame or regret.  The only entrepreneurs worth working for or investing in are those who have seen failure (whether large or small) and dealt with it.  You&#039;re smart, determined, ethical, creative -- it hurts now, but you&#039;ll be OK, and I expect your next idea to be even better than SplashCast.

As for the PDX issue, I can say from experience that it is possible to build technology-based companies in Portland, receive VC funding, and accomplish a positive exit.  I&#039;ve done it twice now.  There are things about the local economy that are buggy (lack of sufficient local VC funding, lack of local political understanding or support of enterprise creation or growth, etc.), but there are also things that are unique and great (highly education populace, creativity, lifestyle).  As with anything, to succeed here you have to pick a good industry, have a winning idea, work like crazy, find your lucky breaks, and build a revenue model that is both rooted in reality and supportive of a bigger picture.

Lots to fix in Portland, but plenty to celebrate too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Michael &#8212; please don&#8217;t feel any shame or regret.  The only entrepreneurs worth working for or investing in are those who have seen failure (whether large or small) and dealt with it.  You&#8217;re smart, determined, ethical, creative &#8212; it hurts now, but you&#8217;ll be OK, and I expect your next idea to be even better than SplashCast.</p>
<p>As for the PDX issue, I can say from experience that it is possible to build technology-based companies in Portland, receive VC funding, and accomplish a positive exit.  I&#8217;ve done it twice now.  There are things about the local economy that are buggy (lack of sufficient local VC funding, lack of local political understanding or support of enterprise creation or growth, etc.), but there are also things that are unique and great (highly education populace, creativity, lifestyle).  As with anything, to succeed here you have to pick a good industry, have a winning idea, work like crazy, find your lucky breaks, and build a revenue model that is both rooted in reality and supportive of a bigger picture.</p>
<p>Lots to fix in Portland, but plenty to celebrate too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Berkley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Berkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, everyone. Again, a great discussion.  I especially appreciate @furrier, from Palo Alto, jumping in.  John has seen it all.

The truth is that we&#039;re all still a little shell-shocked about this result, even though we&#039;ve accepted it and are all moving on in good spirits.  

That said, I still wake up at night thinking: &quot;WTF, how could we not close the loop on our series B; we had so much going for us.&quot;  I run through the reasons in my head: worst economy in a lifetime, concerns about online display advertising, a late-evolving-revenue model, overly-diluted cap table, location, first-time CEO... 

But perhaps most importantly: our difficulty in breaking through the noise. There is A LOT of noise in digital medial / social networking.  Many (most?) VC&#039;s are motivated by their gut as much as their intellect.  Hype around a startup is a major &quot;gut driver&quot; for VC&#039;s.  Hype is driven, in large part, by being present and having a loud voice / strong personality.  It has little to do with the actual business.  In the case of SplashCast, we simply weren&#039;t in the middle of it.  This kinda brings us back to the PDX / location debate -- but from a different angle.

This discussion around venture capital and Portland is material for a longer blog post... perhaps I will work on that over the next few weeks.  I have a lot of thoughts to share.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, everyone. Again, a great discussion.  I especially appreciate @furrier, from Palo Alto, jumping in.  John has seen it all.</p>
<p>The truth is that we&#8217;re all still a little shell-shocked about this result, even though we&#8217;ve accepted it and are all moving on in good spirits.  </p>
<p>That said, I still wake up at night thinking: &#8220;WTF, how could we not close the loop on our series B; we had so much going for us.&#8221;  I run through the reasons in my head: worst economy in a lifetime, concerns about online display advertising, a late-evolving-revenue model, overly-diluted cap table, location, first-time CEO&#8230; </p>
<p>But perhaps most importantly: our difficulty in breaking through the noise. There is A LOT of noise in digital medial / social networking.  Many (most?) VC&#8217;s are motivated by their gut as much as their intellect.  Hype around a startup is a major &#8220;gut driver&#8221; for VC&#8217;s.  Hype is driven, in large part, by being present and having a loud voice / strong personality.  It has little to do with the actual business.  In the case of SplashCast, we simply weren&#8217;t in the middle of it.  This kinda brings us back to the PDX / location debate &#8212; but from a different angle.</p>
<p>This discussion around venture capital and Portland is material for a longer blog post&#8230; perhaps I will work on that over the next few weeks.  I have a lot of thoughts to share.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TK  especially if they are right next to each other (and in the SE).

More to your point:  You are absolutely right, technology startups, particularly with a media component, are high risk ventures and those require a financial community who understands risk and are willing to play in that zone.  

That is not Portland.  

The financial atmosphere here is too conservative.  Sure, there is the rare exception every few years, but, not really in the consumer-facing space. B2B maybe, B2C, not here.

The notion of setting up a storefront in the Bay Area (@Furrier) is an attractive idea, even if the back office happens here.  But, rarely do start ups have resources to manage two locations and also fracture the communication of Sr. Mgt. so early in the game.  

I agree w/some of above comments, I think Splash Cast could have survived better elsewhere.  They were an anomaly for PDX, but offered hope...for awhile....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TK  especially if they are right next to each other (and in the SE).</p>
<p>More to your point:  You are absolutely right, technology startups, particularly with a media component, are high risk ventures and those require a financial community who understands risk and are willing to play in that zone.  </p>
<p>That is not Portland.  </p>
<p>The financial atmosphere here is too conservative.  Sure, there is the rare exception every few years, but, not really in the consumer-facing space. B2B maybe, B2C, not here.</p>
<p>The notion of setting up a storefront in the Bay Area (@Furrier) is an attractive idea, even if the back office happens here.  But, rarely do start ups have resources to manage two locations and also fracture the communication of Sr. Mgt. so early in the game.  </p>
<p>I agree w/some of above comments, I think Splash Cast could have survived better elsewhere.  They were an anomaly for PDX, but offered hope&#8230;for awhile&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus, Tech startups are high risk ventures. Food carts or bongs shop have a far better chance of succeeding pretty much everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus, Tech startups are high risk ventures. Food carts or bongs shop have a far better chance of succeeding pretty much everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: John Furrier</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Furrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sad to hear the new Michael is a great guy and had a good company there.  The core issue is the denial many are having over how f&#039;d up the ad market is.

Buyers are confused and the valuation of techniques employed by Splashcast are severerely undervalued.  This isn&#039;t a Splashcast issue.  It&#039;s the market.  Sure some things on the execution side I&#039;m sure Michael would want a mulligan for but that&#039;s what its all about in business.  

On Portland dont&#039; think that is an issue but what I would share with any companies out there thinking they have to move to Palo Alto .  Don&#039;t it&#039;s expensive.  Just hire someone here for presence and bus dev.  Do it early in the process it might be a good investment.  

Shameless plug:  my new group blog SiliconANGLE is an open group so if anyone wants a presence here we would love to collaborate with you.  The group is there to help entrepreneurs and companies.  

Having a company go dark is sad especially a good one with people like Michael.  Hopefully the market will turn and we can be in job creation mode verses job elimination.  Where the hell is that stimulus ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sad to hear the new Michael is a great guy and had a good company there.  The core issue is the denial many are having over how f&#8217;d up the ad market is.</p>
<p>Buyers are confused and the valuation of techniques employed by Splashcast are severerely undervalued.  This isn&#8217;t a Splashcast issue.  It&#8217;s the market.  Sure some things on the execution side I&#8217;m sure Michael would want a mulligan for but that&#8217;s what its all about in business.  </p>
<p>On Portland dont&#8217; think that is an issue but what I would share with any companies out there thinking they have to move to Palo Alto .  Don&#8217;t it&#8217;s expensive.  Just hire someone here for presence and bus dev.  Do it early in the process it might be a good investment.  </p>
<p>Shameless plug:  my new group blog SiliconANGLE is an open group so if anyone wants a presence here we would love to collaborate with you.  The group is there to help entrepreneurs and companies.  </p>
<p>Having a company go dark is sad especially a good one with people like Michael.  Hopefully the market will turn and we can be in job creation mode verses job elimination.  Where the hell is that stimulus &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would point to Jive Software, easily the most successful tech company in Oregon , as a refutation of the argument Marcus presented.  With that said Jive has certainly had their issues with Oregon and did just open up an office in Palo Alto...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would point to Jive Software, easily the most successful tech company in Oregon , as a refutation of the argument Marcus presented.  With that said Jive has certainly had their issues with Oregon and did just open up an office in Palo Alto&#8230;</p>
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