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title: 'Chatting with Portland’s Ned Hayes on the Dare podcast'
date: '2023-12-12T07:28:57-08:00'
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# Chatting with Portland’s Ned Hayes on the Dare podcast

I got the opportunity to be a guest on the [Dare podcast from Darwoft, hosted by Portland-based Ned Hayes](https://open.spotify.com/episode/25cN62Rh9BeZjcVIhKMmtF?si=N_56nELiQYyXWdedRe6hBA). In a quick but far ranging conversation, we got the opportunity to touch on PIE, Built Oregon, the Portland startup community — from SaaS to consumer products, the Portland investment community, and thoughts about the future of Portland.